Getting Unstuck: Getting Out of Our Own Way – an Interview with with Joe Kwon

How do you get out of your own way? In this episode, we interview Joe Kwon, a global privacy lawyer during the day, which is a critical consideration in the digital era in which we live. But what’s really interesting about Joe is the work he does after of his day job. After protecting privacy all day, Joe shifts gears and begins to, as he says, “pull back the curtain” on life and work through his very entertaining and informative “Why it Works” podcast. There he interviews a diverse cohort of guests who can all speak to the universal principles behind what they do.

Joe facilitating a highly interactive and fun session at the Atlanta 2019 “No Longer Virtual” Conference.

Joe facilitating a highly interactive and fun session at the Atlanta 2019 “No Longer Virtual” Conference.

Joe’s other love is Aikido, the Japanese martial art. After gaining a basic understanding of some of the principles underlying it, we asked Joe to diagnose two situations where individuals may have unknowingly applied Aikido to change their behavior and get out of their own way.

Listen for:

• The magic behind Aikido, the Japanese martial art.

• Why Joe settled on “Why it Works” as the focus of his podcast.

• The sense behind the old maxim “the solution to a problem is contained within the problem.”

Connecting: joining your being with another person, task or challenge; you know you are connected when any action by one affects the other

Blending: combining your energy and intention with another person’s in a way that allows both to express themselves

• How two Aikido techniques Deb (unknowingly) uses – connecting and blending – helped her to overcome her procrastination.

• How Diana learned to manage her energy to help her get out of her own way.

• Why a person who is trying to solve a problem must first be internally secure.

After listening to the episode:

  1. Take an important meeting where you are a participant and actually do some pre-meeting systems thinkings, assessing how you are connected to others in the meeting.

  2. Consider situations when you have a tendency to look away from a problem. Assess where you are looking instead. Consider how the situation would change if you didn’t look away.

  3. How does looking at your behavior being part of a larger system versus independent action change your perspective – and how you act?

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Jeff Ikler