Getting Unstuck: Leading with a Human-centered Focus – a Conversation with Garry Turner

What we’re talking about here — trust, psychological safety, courage, teaming — none of this stuff is about hitting the metrics. I think increasingly we’re seeing that if we get this stuff right — the human connection, the trust, the clarity — you get better results as an outcome. — Garry Turner
Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change: “It’s all about helping leaders and their teams lead productive change.” Available for pre-order now.

Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change: “It’s all about helping leaders and their teams lead productive change.” Available for pre-order now.

Today on Getting Unstuck

Today we are literally turning the tables on ourselves because in this conversation, which was recorded just before last Christmas, we’re on the other side of the microphone. Here we’re being interviewed by our good friend and host of the “Value Through Vulnerability” podcast, Garry Turner.

Here we delve into some critical topics that impact change: leadership that’s focused on growing people, not just metrics; what makes high-performing teams, high-performing, and how best to motivate organizations for growth.

Today’s episode is extra special for us because it’s really the first time we get to talk a little bit about our new book – Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change, which is slated to be available on Amazon on April 7.

Listen now to our conversation on Garry Turner’s Value Through Vulnerability podcast.

The Essential Point

During the interview, Garry notes “What we're talking about here — trust, psychological safety, courage, teaming — none of this stuff is about hitting the metrics. I think increasingly we're seeing that if we get this stuff right — the human connection, the trust, the clarity — you get better results as an outcome.”

This focus on the human quotient is a central tenet of our new book on change for school leaders. Leaders undertaking change have to be as concerned with the people affecting the change, including themselves, as they are with the change itself. Effective change leadership — really all leadership — is about having a deep focus on people; it’s about listening better; it’s about giving up control to achieve wider ownership; it’s about harnessing human emotion through a human-centered purpose, not metrics. Change initiatives that only focus on the mechanics of moving from x to y are doomed to failure.

For More Information

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