436: What if We Talk More About the Books We’re Trying to Ban?
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Guest
Katie DeBonville’s first book, Grace Notes, a memoir of essays in which music is the throughline, was published in May 2026. A Massachusetts native who has enjoyed a career in fundraising for arts organizations, she holds degrees in music from Bucknell University and New England Conservatory and earned her MFA from Lesley University. When not writing, she enjoys attending concerts, browsing in independent bookstores, and a good glass of wine.
Summary
Katie discusses her Banned Book Week Substack series, which examines some of hr favorite books that have been banned or challenged, from Nancy Drew and Judy Blume to Amy Tan and Harry Potter. She finds that many of the reasons books were banned decades ago—discomfort with authority, sexuality, race, trauma, and marginalized identities—remain relevant today. Her essential point: rather than hiding difficult subjects, we should confront them through reading, conversation, and critical thinking.
Social Media & Mentioned
Overview https://www.ala.org/bbooks/banned
Books most often banned https://www.lib.umich.edu/about-us/news/banned-books-week-2026-october-4-10/
Top 10 Most Often Challenged 2026 https://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10
Description of the 10 Most Often Banned Books https://bookresumes.uniteagainstbookbans.org/
The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down by Anne Fadiman
Jeff’s podcast episode on the Nazi book burning on May 10, 1933, and the underground memorial
Grace Notes: A Musical Memoir by Katie DeBonville
About Jeff
Jeff Ikler is the Director of Quetico Leadership and Career Coaching. “Quetico” (KWEH-teh-co). He works with leaders in all aspects of life to identify and overcome obstacles in their desired future. He came to the field of coaching after a 35-year career in educational publishing. Prior to his career in educational publishing, Jeff taught high school U.S. history and government.
Jeff has hosted the “Getting Unstuck—Cultivating Curiosity” podcast for 5 years. The guests and topics he explores are designed to help listeners think differently about the familiar and welcome the new as something to consider. He is also the co-host of the Cultivating Resilience – A Whole Community Approach to Alleviating Trauma in Schools, which promotes mental health and overall wellness.
Jeff co-authored Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change. Shifting integrates leadership development and change mechanics in a three-part change framework to help guide school leaders and their teams toward productive change.
Show Credits
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